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dagibbs ([personal profile] dagibbs) wrote2009-12-29 01:27 pm

Even worse?

It looks like carry-ons may even be totally banned, now. Ugh. I am SO not looking forward to this trip to the US. Hopefully this is just a short-term spasm, not a real change.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/carry-on-bags-banned-to-alleviate-long-delays/article1413770/#

[identity profile] jmae.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Noooo, that's ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous into infuriating. I refuse to believe it until I see it.

[identity profile] dagibbs.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/carry-on-bags-banned-to-alleviate-long-delays/article1413770/#

[identity profile] dagibbs.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. It is SO fucked up.

[identity profile] dagibbs.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Reported in the Globe and Mail.

[identity profile] jackspryte.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
rant/ Just a gentle reminder IMO that a governmental form based on "We the people" is in fact still just a dictitorial and closed process.

Who said they could tell their citizens anything anyways? From where is that authority derived? and what if it al became much worse? Would anything be done?

I doubt it.

Governments don't fear their people anymore..thay have no reason to.

/rant

[identity profile] horsetraveller.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
*No* carry-ons?

So are they promising not to smash any fragile items you may want to carry to your destination with you? Like, oh I don't know, a laptop?
Or perhaps promise not to lose things for you, like the prescription medication you need to have once you get to your destination?

Cargo is not the appropriate place for a lot of things.

[identity profile] dagibbs.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/carry-on-bags-banned-to-alleviate-long-delays/article1413770/#

Yeah.

[identity profile] dagibbs.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Promising to not smash. Promise that your stuff won't just get stolen. Yeah.
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[personal profile] metawidget 2009-12-30 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently you can bring your laptop, but there was no mention of books or magazines on the list of things you can bring. I imagine EnRoute will be raising its advertising rates soon :P

[identity profile] horsetraveller.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
From the Washington Post:

"Instead, Abdulmutallab, a member of a well-off Nigerian family, merely walked through a standard screening machine that cannot detect the type of plastic explosive that he allegedly carried in undergarments and tried to ignite aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253, while en route from Amsterdam to Detroit."

The explosives weren't even in his carry-on. They were in his underwear.

So the logical thing is that we shouldn't be allowed to wear clothes onto the airplane (or at least underwear) but be allowed to bring our carry-ons (which have been checked through by airport security).

[identity profile] horsetraveller.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Or wear something like a housecoat with nothing underneath, undo the belt, open up, the security person can have a look at your bare skin with no plastics hidden inside, and then you do up your belt and get on the plane.

Barefoot of course.

[identity profile] dagibbs.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. This is 100% stupid reaction time. Security theater.
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[identity profile] mikepictor.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
They can't ban carry on entirely and survive. Too many people will refuse to fly under those conditions. Business travel would severely be crimped. If they do it, it will only be for a short while for the security theatre.

They *might* allow carry on, but forbid you from opening it, even to the point of obliging you to secure the latch with a plastic security tie or something. That would blow, but it would mean people could still carry their laptops, even if they couldn't use them.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/niall_/ 2009-12-30 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Getting people sitting naked is the only way to actually avoid what happened - explosives in the underwear... this security measure doesn't even prevent that.

And if you believe it's "short term", hah! HAH!

Yeah, what about those who need prescriptions at very specific times, and you're in a cross-country flight of 5 hours? Can't have prescriptions on board? Nothing? Where is the line drawn? I think they're going to find out pretty quickly.

I had no plans to fly soon, and will cancel those I might have had, until sanity returns.

Hello, Via Rail...

[identity profile] dagibbs.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
It looks like it might have been a "temporary" 24-hour measure. But, I'm still not happy.
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[personal profile] beable 2009-12-30 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)

I am sincerely hoping that at least a minimal amount of sanity will return before my trip to NYC in a week and a half.

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[personal profile] elizilla 2009-12-30 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's a great new business opportunity for someone: Special clothing for air travelers that has many huge pockets. So that you can wear all the things you would otherwise have carried in a roller bag or backpack.

[identity profile] dagibbs.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I like!